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In this panel discussion, Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk, Dr. Gabor Maté, and Dr. Scott Lyons explored the use of psychedelics as powerful tools for healing trauma. They collectively emphasized that a holistic approach is essential, one that includes careful preparation, integration, and a deep understanding of the body's role in the healing process. The session covered several key topics:

• Mindset and Setting: effectiveness of psychedelics depends heavily on the user's mindset, intentions, and the physical and social environment.

• The Role of Somatics: importance of incorporating somatic therapy

• Distinguishing Psychedelics: when asked how to choose a specific psychedelic

• Addiction and Microdosing

This is a live session happening on Friday, September 12th. The recording will be available to watch by end of day Friday.

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Join visionary leaders Rick Doblin (MAPS founder) and Dr. Richard Schwartz (Internal Family Systems creator) as they explore how psychedelic-assisted therapy is reshaping everything we know about trauma healing and recovery. This candid discussion examines the intersection of psychedelics with evidence-based therapeutic approaches, addressing both the transformative potential and practical realities of this emerging field.

What you'll learn:

• How MDMA-assisted therapy is advancing through FDA trials and what this breakthrough means for trauma treatment

• Why Internal Family Systems offers a powerful framework for understanding and healing different parts of ourselves

• The critical role of preparation, environment, and somatic awareness in psychedelic healing experiences

• What the future holds for psychedelic-assisted therapies: accessibility, training, and integration into healthcare systems

• How these body-mind approaches are creating new possibilities for treating trauma, depression, and other psychological challenges

Interested in listening to a specific part of the session? We’ve provided the time stamps below to help. Simply click on that time in the time bar on the video above.

• Where did the use of psychedelic assisted therapy start and where is it now? - starts 00:02:12

• Decentering Psychedelics as a “magic bullet” and understanding the for-profit psychedelic industry - starts 00:06:15

• What has the process between IFS and psychedelic assisted therapy been like? - 00:09:22

• Can psychedelics and AI replace the need for therapists? - starts 00:12:49

• How we can reframe “bad trips” as exiles showing up and the importance of having a therapist present - starts 00:15:03

• Unpacking the notion of “bad” vs. “difficult” trips - starts 00:16:10

• What is the “golden hour” or critical period in psychedelic assisted therapy? - starts 00:17:24

• The difference between recreational and therapeutic use of psychedelics - starts 00:22:35

• How IFS can bring a compassionate witness to past trauma - starts 0030:04

• How does meaning-making show up in IFS? - starts 00:35:23

• How is group therapy being used with IFS and psychedelics? - start 00:39:32

• Is it possible to do processing work outside of the “golden hour” - starts 00:46:52

• The difference between using higher doses and lower doses of psychedelics - starts 00:48:59

• Using IFS to change the perception of past memories - starts 00:50:14

• What is the future of psychedelic therapy? - starts 00:52:46